Ma30. Robert Malet a Norman b before 1035 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m ?? Me30=29=28 an English lady daughter of Leofric III, Earl of Mercia and possibly Lady Godiva | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
A few web sites suggest that the mother of the following William Malet was a daughter of Leofric, Earl of Mercia who died in 1057. Whilst it is surely more likely that she was a generation or two before rather than after the Earl, because Leofric's wife was Lady Godiva, sister of Sheriff Thorold who is shown below as husband of 'the Countess Lucy' William Malet's granddaughter, such a connection might help explain why Lucy is sometimes referred to as a daughter of Aelfgar, Leofric's son and successor. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma29. | William Malet b c 1050 d c 1071, Sire de Graville, Sheriff of York §B | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Hesilia Crispin dau of Gilbert Crispin de Bec | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
BP1934 leaves open who this William's wife saying only that he was "connected by marriage with William the Conqueror and King Harold". The Mallet site names her Heselia Crispin without showing her descent. She may be daughter of Gilbert, Count de Brionne, but the family of Gilbert Crispin de Bec seems more likely. But this leaves some confusion as Crispin sources indicate that her husband was Robert Malet, not William, and reports a source as saying that she was probably the mother of the William Malet who fought at Senlac, more commonly called the Battle of Hastings 1066. This would make Hesilia William's mother rather than his wife. Furthermore, as Hesilia and Elise appear to be variations of the same name, and noting the confusion between Gilbert de Bec and Gilbert de Brionne, so the Elisee de Brionne, shown as wife of the following Robert, may have been confused with Hesilia Crispin. Clarification is needed. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma28-1. | Robert Malet of Eye d Tinchebrai 1106, Lord Chamberlain | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Robert is reported to have wanted Robert 'Curthose' to have succeeded William the Conqueror in England as well as Normandy and to have been banished by William 'Rufus' when he took the crown instead. He continued to support the Robert and died at Tinchebrai Tinchebray where the youngest brother Henry Henry I of England defeated Robert to keep England and Normandy under single control. Some sources say that his family fell into disgrace, losing the 'Honour' of Eye, which is why a son/grandson, Hugh, changed his name to Fitchet. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Elisee de Brionne identified on various web sites including 'the Mallet site', see note about Hesilia Crispin above | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
i. | William Malet of Eye | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
a. | Ernest Malet, Sire de Graville ancestor of Malets in France | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
b. | Hugh Malet thought by some, including BP1934, to have been Hugh Fitchet - see note see below | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma28. | Gilbert Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma27=28 | Robert Malet of Curry Malet b about | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Some web sites show this Robert to be the Robert we show as his uncle. The following comes mainly from the Mallet site. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma26 =27 =29 | William Malet of Curry Malet d 1169 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Maud Mortimer | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma26 =28 =25 | Gilbert Malet of Curry Malet d 1194 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Alice Picot dau of Ralph Picot | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma25 =27 =24 | William Malet of Curry Malet d 1217 Magna Carta Surety, was mentioned
as a minor in the year 1194, in connection with an expedition made that year into Normandy.
His principal estate was Curry-Malet. From 1210 to 1214 he was sheriff of counties Somerset and Dorset.
He then joined the Barons against King John and became one of the Sureties.
He had lands in four counties which were confiscated and given to his son-in-law,
Hugh de Vivonia, Thomas Basset, and to his father-in-law, and Malet was excommunicated by the Pope in 1216.
He was also fined 2,000 marks, but the sum was not paid until after his death, and at that time 1,000 marks
were remitted, being found due to him for military service to King John in Poitou. It is interesting to note
that there were five contemporary relatives named Malet, all of whom held lands in England or in Jersey.
William Malet died about 1217, having married Mabel, called also Alice and Aliva, daughter of
Thomas Basset of Headington. Nothing now remains of Malet's estate of Curry-Malet.
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Ma26=23 Mabel Malet m Hugh de Vivonia, Sheriff of Somerset. | Vi25=22 William de Forz de Vivonia b Somersets about 1219 d 1259 m2 Maud Ferrers, dau of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby and Sybil Marshall.
Vi22-2 Hawise de VIVONNE d about 1250 m Walter de WAHULL |
Vi21 Cecily de VIVONIA b1257 d 1320 m Be21 John de BEAUCHAMP
Vi25 Joan de Forz de Vivonne b 1251 d 1 Jun 1344 m2 Reginald FitzPiers b 1208 Blaen Llyfni Brocknockshire d 18 Nov 1286 Curry Malet Somerset son of Peter FitzHerbert b 1166 Blewleveny Castle Baen Llyfni Vi21-3 Mabel de VIVONIA m Fulk d' Archiac Vi21-4 Sibyl de VIVONIA m Guy de Rochechouart Vi22-2-1 John de WAHULL d 1296 Baron of ODELL |
Be21 John de BEAUCHAMP II b 1274 d 1337 Baron of Hoche/Hacche 1st Lord Beauchamp de SOMERSET
m1 Joan CHENDUIT /CHENEY m2 Joan AUDLEY
Be21-2 Eleanor de BEAUCHAMP Be21-3 Beatrix de BEAUCHAMP Be21-4? Alice de BEAUCHAMP Be21-5? Joan de BEAUCHAMP Fi24 Peter FitzHerbert b 1252 in Hertfordshire d 18 Nov 1322 in Hertfordshire m 1279 Alice Brokengreen b 1253 |
Be20-1 Eleanor (de) BEAUCHAMP
Be20-2 William de BEAUCHAMP Be20-3 Beatrice BEAUCHAMP Be20 John de BEAUCHAMP b 4 Oct. 1306 in Hatch, Somerset d 19 May 1343 m Margaret St. John St20 Be20-?5 Joan de BEAUCHAMP Fi23-1 Adam Herbert b 1284 in Llanllowel, Monmouthshire d 1345 in Wernddu, Monmouthshire m 1300 in Wernddu Christian verch Gwaring b 1277 d 1365 Fi23 Reginald FitzReginald b 1268 in Hertfordshire d 1307 m1?2 Alice Broadspeare b 1269 m2?1 Joan, dau of Robert Martel. |
Be19-1 Margaret de Beauchamp
Be19-2 Sir John de Beauchamp Be19-3 Edward de Beauchamp Be19-4 William de Beauchamp Be19 Eleanor Beauchamp b c 1332 d 13 June 1391 m1 Sir John Blount Bl19 he m1 >1st Isolda de Mountjoy Mo19 she m2 John de Meriet m3 Henry Lunet |
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Bl18 Sir Walter Blount m Sancha de Ayala Ay18
Bl18-9 Thomas Blount Bl18-10 Alice Blount Bl18-11 William Blount Be19-6 Cecelia de Beauchamp Fi23-1-1 Jenken Herbert b 1301 in Raglan Castle, Monmouthshire d 1344 in Wernddu Monmouthshire m 1326 in Wernddu Gwenlian Verch Aran/Aron b 1305 d 1332 Fi22 Herbert FitzReginald m Lucy, dau of Andrew Peverell. |
Bu17-1 Constancia Blount
Bu17 Thomas Blount b aft 1374 m Margaret Gresley Gr17 Bl16-2 Thomas Blount II (Twin) Bl16-1 Elizabeth BLOUNT (Twin) Bl16-3 Sancha BLOUNT Bl16-4 Agnes (Anna) BLOUNT Bl16 Walter Blount m Ellen Byron + 6 ch m2 25 Nov. 1467 Anne Neville, Duchess of Buckingham Bl16-6 Miss BLOUNT Bl16-7 Eliza (Elizabeth) BLOUNT Bl17-3 Sir James Blount Bl17-4 Sir John Blount Bl17-5 Anne Blount Bl17-6 Sancha Blount Bl17-7 Walter Blount b 1375 d 1382 Bl17-8 Peter Blount Fi23-1-1-1 Guillem Herbert b 1330 in Wernddu, Monmouthshire d Bet. 1377 - 1390 in Perth Hir, Monmouthshire m 1360 in Cefnyddwyglwyd Monmouthshire Gwenlian Verch Hywel/Howel b 1340 Fi21 Reginald FitzHerbert m Joan. |
Bl15 Sir William Blount b 1442 Rock Worcester k 14 Apr 1471 at the Battle of Barnet m Margaret Eychingham b 1443 Echingham, Sussex dau of Sir Thomas Eychingham II (Ec16) and Margaret West We16 Bl15-2 Sir John Blount Bl15-3 Sir James Blount Bl15-4 Edward Blount Bl15-5 Anne Blount Bl15-6 Elizabeth Blount Fi20 Edmund FitzHerbert m Joan. |
Bl14 Elizabeth Blount b c 1471 d 1514 m Andrew de Windsor Wi14 1st Baron Windsor Fi19 Alice FitzHerbert m Thomas West We19 |
Wi13-1 Elizabeth Windsor Wi13-2 George Windsor Wi13-3 Eleanor Windsor Wi13-4 William Windsor 2° Baron Windsor of Bradenham Wi13-5 Andrew Windsor b. ABT 1492 Wi13-6 Edmund Windsor b. ABT 1494 - d. AFT Jan 1553 Wi13-7 Anne Windsor Wi13 Edith Windsor m George Ludlow, Sheriff of Wiltshire Wi13-9 Thomas Windsor We18 Sir Thomas West 1365-1405 m Joan de la Warr Wa18 d 1404 |
We17 Reginald West Baron de la Ware and Baron West 1395-1451 m Margaret Thorley Th17 (c1400-1433/43) |
We16 Margaret West m Sir Thomas Eychingham Ec16 b 1423 Echyngham |
Ec15 Margaret Eychingham m Bl15 Sir William Blount b 1442 Rock Worcester k 14 Apr 1471 at the Battle of Barnet |
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m2 1204 Alice Basset dau of Thomas Basset, lord of Headington | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma24-1 | Helewise or Hawise Malet d 04.05.1287 |
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m1 before 23.03.1216/7 Hugh Poyntz d before 1220 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2 Sir Robert de Musegros of Brynham, Cherleton and Norton b 1198, d 29.01.1253/4 |
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Ma24 | Mabel Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1 Nicholas Avenal | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mysouthernfamily/myff/d0054/g0000024.html#I88988 | m2 before 1223 Hugh de Vivonia or Vyvon Vi24, in Poitou of Chewton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vi23-1 | John de Vyvon dsp 1314 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vi23 | William Fort de Vivonne or Vyvon of Chewton d by 22.05.1259 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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m Maud Ferrers d 12.03.1298/9, dau of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vi22-1 | Joan de Vyvon b 1251, d 01.06.1314 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Reynold FitzPiers, Sheriff of Hampshire d 05.1286 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vi22-2 | Sibyl de Vyvon b 1253, a 07.1306 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Guy de Rochechouart | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vi22-3 | Mabel de Vyvon b 1255, a 02.1290/1 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Fulk, Sn d'Archiac a 1294 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vi22 | Cicely de Vyvon b 1257, d 10.01.1320/1 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m John de Beauchamp of Hatch d 24.10.1283 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vi23-3 | Hawise de Vyvon | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Walter de Wahull d 1269 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma24-3+ | other issue - Hugh, William, Bertha | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma25-2 | Sir Ralph Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
-1 | Sir William Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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m1 Sir Simon de Hestercombe | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2 Sir Thomas de Timworth | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
-1-2 | Amice Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Sir Walter de Gayton | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma25-3+ | other issue - Robert, Gilbert | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma26. | Sir Baldwin Malet of Enmore | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
BP1934 shows Sir Baldwin as son of Hugh Fitchet, younger son of William Malet of Eye see @@@ above. The Mallet web site reports that this view is not unknown, being based on research published in 1885, but reports also research published in 1938-9 which suggested that this may have been based on a misinterpretation with the descent shown here being more likely. That site also reports the suggestion that reference to Fichet may have come through Sir Baldwin's wife, Emma, who may have been daughter or step-daughter of Hugh Fichet whose wife Basilea may have been the heiress of Enmore. BP1934 identifies Baldwin's wife as ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Emma de Neville dau of Hugh de Neville | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma25 | Sir William Malet of Enmore this generation omitted by BP1934 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Maud de Kitemore dau of Adam de Kitemore | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma24 | Sir William Malet of Enmore d 1252 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Sara de Sully dau of Raymond de Sully | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma23 | Sir William Malet of Enmore a 1264 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Maria | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma22 | Sir Baldwin Malet of Enmore d 1279 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m 1272 Mabel de Deandon dau of Sir Hamelyn de Deandon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma21 | Sir John Malet of Enmore b about 1250 d 1287 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Sibylla de St Cleere dau of Sir Robert de St Cleere | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma20 | Sir Baldwin Malet of Enmore and Deandon b 1284, d 1343 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Avicia or Hawise Ralegh dau of Sir Simon Ralegh | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma19 | Sir John Malet of Enmore and Deandon d c1349 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Elizabeth Kingston dau of Sir John Kingston | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma18 | Sir Baldwin Malet of Enmore and Deandon d 1416 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1 Elizabeth Trivett dau of Sir Thomas Trivett | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2 Amicia Lyffe dau of Richard Lyffe of Corypole | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma18-2+ | other issue - John, Hawise, Constantine | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma19-2+ | other issue - Baldwin, Walter, Richard, Isabel, Maud, Johanna, Alice | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma20-2 | Thomas Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma21-2 | Robert Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
A | Milicent Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Laurence de Broc | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma22-2 | Raymund Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Melicent | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma28=27. | Beatrice Malet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1. William of Arques = William d'Arches possibly William, Vicomte d'Arques or William d'Arques ?? |
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Beatrice's second marriage shown below which is not mentioned in the Mallet web site identified below is based on the presumption that the following Lucy was the offspring of such a marriage. According to TCP, which dedicates a whole Appendix to 'the Countess Lucy" Appendix J in Volume VII, her parentage "is one of the unsolved puzzles of genealogy". It reports an early chronicle as saying that "she was a daughter of Aelfgar, Earl of Mercia, and niece or grandniece of Thorold, sometime Sheriff of co. Lincoln". HOWEVER, TCP also says "All that is certainly known is that she was niece of Robert Malet of Eye and of Alan of Lincoln, and that Thorold the Sheriff was a kinsman." TCP then reports the view that she was daughter of Thorold, Sheriff of Lincolnshire. There appear to be arguments for both theories, both of which make reference to the inheritance of various lands. We show her here because at least some 'serious' modern genealogists seem to lean strongly towards the view that she was daughter of Sheriff Thorold Turold of Bucknell by a daughter of William de Malet. As it is suggested in various web sites that William de Malet had only one daughter, Beatrice, and as it appears to be certain that she was married to William of Arques, it is assumed that she married twice. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2. Thorold or Turold of Bucknell or Bucknall, Sheriff of Lincolnshire d by 1079 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma28=26. | Lucy 'the Countess Lucy' >§T§ |
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Some web sites show two generations of Lucy, often with the second one shown as wife of the Earl of Chester being a daughter of Ivo Taillebois by the first one. TCP notes this view but reports "Charter evidence, however, proves that there was only one Lucy." | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1 Ivo Taillebois, Sheriff of Lincoln, lord of Kendal d c1094 |
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m2 Roger FitzGerold de Roumare | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m3. c1098 Ranulph de Meschines, 1st Earl of Chester b c1070, d 01.1128-9 |
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Ma29-2. | Durand had issue | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Reported by BEB1841 Peyton of Iselham was the following younger brother of William Mallet, Sheriff of Yorkshire ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ma29 =Pe28. | Walter b c 1050 d c 1120, lord of Sibton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Pe27. | Reginald de Peyton of Peyton Hall 2nd son b c 1100 d c 1150 | www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/payton/pats?raw=1 shows Reginald as son of John de Peyton of Peyton Hall, Stoke-by-Nayland, Boxford, Suffolk as an intermediate generation and/or alternative descent from Walter de Sibton. This seems reasonable if both Rober Ma30 and William Ma29 and possibly even Walter Ma29 =Pe28 took part in the Battle of Hastings, since otherwise rather long spans between generations have to be "guesstimated" to show the line of descent. Adding purely guessed dates of birth and death has proved invaluable for the author as a plausibility check. The Peyton DNA Project has recently revised the assumption that Reginald was a Malet descendant and now identifies his father as Walter de Cadamo aka Walter de Caen, which is more in accord with the author's observation that there must have been one or two intermediate generations. |
Sources: BP1934 Malet, www.mallettfamilyhistory.org referred to above
as the "Mallet site"
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